Posted by: greenpinkies | March 17, 2011

Update on the cans:

What is the quickest way to get information off the internet?  Something even faster than Google?

Answer: just post a blog with incomplete information or an error and you will have instant responses from your readers.  Thank you all….and keep it up!

Many thanks to William, who, although officially acting in the capacity of  Energy Rater, is often reduced to ‘coach’  which can be really frustrating when the ones coached get stubborn and don’t want to take advice. He is really patient with us and is the recipient of our ‘patient pinkie’ award.

Ongoing corrections to the latest blog: “Trash the cans?”

1.Definitions: “IC” means “Insulation Contact” and not “Insulated Ceiling”

2.Although we came to the conclusion there were no reasonably priced ICAT housings with the traditional twist in capability out there, we were wrong. We found them here in Fayetteville in Home Depot and also, subsequently found them online from both Home Depot and Lowes.

According to our research, Halo Housing (H7ICAT) is available at Lowe’s but we didn’t find it here in Fayetteville.  But, Lowes does offer them online, at $9.98 per housing.  At Home Depot: $7.86 (online) and $7.00 in-store (if bought in a 6-pack contractor’s pack).

3.Regarding Juno can housings and the “air-loc” registered trademark and the claim that these do not meet EnergyStar requirements: .  According to the EnergyStar guidelines for fixtures (, Table 1A, last sentence, leads us to believe that the Juno IC22 housings may qualify for EnergyStar based on that sentence, “Certified Air Tight per ASTM E283.”  Though ‘Air-Tite’ (registered trademark of Halo) or ‘Air-Tight’ wasn’t used by Juno, ‘Air-Loc’ seems to be the same thing (but Juno, being the younger company (1988 vs. 1958), perhaps wanting to be different, and to make their own registered trademark, used Air-Loc instead??). The Juno company representative, who we called, insisted their product was also air tight.

Note: The Juno can housings do require the purchase of a $2.79 gasket to be installed with them.

4.Our conclusion that ‘twist in incandescent and CFLs cannot be used in the ICAT can housings due to overheating issues. Wrong, the Halo H7ICAT can use up to a 75 watt incandescent as long as the bulb is one of those special downward directed bulbs (a bulb that has the back end dipped in silver reflective coating similar to a chocolate dipped strawberry).

So, friends, the bottom line is that the industry is very new with both its products and vocabulary. We will continue to update this blog as we receive more information….stay tuned.

Oh, almost forgot:  What did Lauren do with the cans?

Well, her decision was made for her by accident when our Jon, who didn’t know all this information and controversy swirling around cyberspace, thought Lauren wanted the Juno can housings removed and “surprised her” with his initiative. (He felt sorry for Lauren who was loudly lamenting having to undo her work).

So, with the die thusly cast, we bought the Halo H7ICAT housings, which Jon, with equal alacrity, put in.  And the Juno housings?  Ah yes, they now reside in my living room as the latest of the energy updates to my house. (There are advantages to hanging around these projects, you know).


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